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and entitlements. joining me now, democratic congresswoman gwen moore of wisconsin, a member of the house budget committee. thanks for joining me. >> thanks for having me, tam rochblt. >> we got word from aides, speaker boehner, going to ohio tomorrow, whether that might impact communication with the president concerning the fiscal cliff, the speaker says ohio has both cell phone service and airports so if the president wants to talk or meet, it won't be a problem at all. at this point, nothing is scheduled. what does that mean to you about the talks at this point? >> my read is the republicans and john boehner, in order to get his caucus involved, they are insisting on getting the ryan budget and the romney budget plan through by negotiation fiat. they didn't whip the election but they still want -- they want to win by negotiation fiat. i think that they are -- in order to save face, they are demanding that there be severe cuts to medicare, social security. i think they want the change, the president to agree to the chained cpi for social security, raise the medicare age and wants to back down
're not in the union. stephen moore, "wall street journal." who would be next? >> there are a number of states neighbors to michigan really looking at this legislation. i'll name a few to you, bill. pennsylvania, ohio, west virgina, states like that are competing against southern states. remember a lot of jobs and a lot of manufacturing has moved from the midwest, the kind of rust belt of america to the south in part because those southern states are right-to-work. can i mention one other thing if i could, bill, about this issue that is important? bill: sure. >> there is so much misinformation what it means to be a right-to-work state. i want your viewers to know this, if you're a right-to-work state it does not ban unions, bill. simply means that workers who work for a unionized company have the right as an individual to join the union or not. it does not ban unions. bill: to be more specific, if you're not a member of a union, in michigan you're required to pay union dues. >> that is exactly right. bill: under this law you're no longer required to pay dues for something you're not gets servi
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